3. Father continues the mantle of SuperDub, but lets his cog. dis. hang out like a flag of honor in such a way that Mother eventually realises that they have got to be nuts to still believe this crap and spills her doubts to him.
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What is the best for the child if father knows TTATT and mother is a devout JW?
by Daniel1555 inhi friends.
i would like to know your opinion on the following:.
situation:.
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should I tell the CO my doubts?
by Captain Blithering inits possible i might be asked by the co to work with him today.
hes gonna want to know why i'm holding myself back.
i'm itching to tell him about my doubts (only about the new light, how i cant get my head around how the hs would direct us to believe falsehoods for decades, not about everything, that'd be suicide!
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Black Sheep
If you have a loving wife she will respect your feelings and thoughts.
That is just wishful thinking. Relying on your family member being one of the rare few reasonable members of mind control cults after they have found out you are 'weak in the faith' just plays into the WT's hands. Every warning you ever heard the WT give about apostate spotting was heard by your family members. When the WT said what to do when confronted by opposers, questioners, apostates, etc., they were listening too. If you really want your family members out, you have to consider doing the damage while they still believe you are a trooo believer. Consider being the last one out. First out seldom works ... read the experiences in this forum if you don't believe that.
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should I tell the CO my doubts?
by Captain Blithering inits possible i might be asked by the co to work with him today.
hes gonna want to know why i'm holding myself back.
i'm itching to tell him about my doubts (only about the new light, how i cant get my head around how the hs would direct us to believe falsehoods for decades, not about everything, that'd be suicide!
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Black Sheep
Save your conversations for people who are important to you. Don't waste them on people who are going use what you say to tell your family to treat you like a piece of shit, never to be trusted again.
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Should I go back to the meetings???
by Crazyguy ini stopped going for a few months and have been real busy with work using this as a bit of an excuse to not go.
my family has gone on as if not much has changed and i feel marginalize as my family goes on and does scocial thing with the ones in the hall etc.
most of my kids are under the age of 11 and so i don't know if i tell them little things if it really sinks in anyway.
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Black Sheep
If you want your kids out of the org, you have to do it while they will still listen to you.
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Atheists know more about the bible!
by Comatose ina newly minted atheist, she uses her youversion bible app to try to persuade people away from the christianity she grew up in.. .
i know of a lot of atheists who have come to their nonbelief by actually reading the bible rather than just the fluffy stories they choose to tell you about in church, she said.
reading the full story with all its contradictions and violence and sexism, it should make you think, is this really what i believe in?
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Black Sheep
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Genital Mutilation - Is anyone watching this?
by Slidin Fast inuk chanel 4 " the cruel cut".
in the uk in black and asian communities female genital mutilation(fgm) or destruction of the clitoris and the labia of young girls is practised.
this horror is common in the uk, it is illegal and has been for 28 years but there has not been one prosecution.. this got me thinking.
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Black Sheep
Another side of the circumcision story is that a circumcised glans is caloused and less sensitive, therefore the ladies have more fun time before the bomb drops.
Maybe Jehovah reckoned that if the ladies had more fun with Jews, he could grow his cult faster?
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Atheists know more about the bible!
by Comatose ina newly minted atheist, she uses her youversion bible app to try to persuade people away from the christianity she grew up in.. .
i know of a lot of atheists who have come to their nonbelief by actually reading the bible rather than just the fluffy stories they choose to tell you about in church, she said.
reading the full story with all its contradictions and violence and sexism, it should make you think, is this really what i believe in?
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Black Sheep
I find it kind of contrary to be so well versed in something you don't believe in.
I see no reason why someone who is well versed in 'alien abduction' should believe in it. They may have a good understanding of how such a delusion comes to it's believers and I see that as an interesting reason to study the phenomena. Why were they interested in the first place? If your Dad believed alien abduction instead of the WT or Allah, Buddha, whatever, what would you be well versed in? If you studied it, would you believe it?
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god-of-the-gaps. Should we or shouldn't we fiil in the gaps with God?
by KateWild inscience imo does not have all the answers.
when i discover gaps in science, it's easy for me, as a temporary measure to fill in the gaps with god.
i do this until i have learnt something new.. what about you?
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Black Sheep
I don't have a problem knowing that I don't know. Often, it turns out later that the question had more problems than the rote answers provided by the questioner.
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I cannot sign in for best of topics area.
by DS211 ineverytine i do it reverts me back to login...and each time i click on "best of" link it sends me back to sign in and wont let me continue.
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Black Sheep
I use https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/best-of as a directory
Lee's curated Best of was very handy for me, and I still use it via archive.org. I see no need to delete it in order to create a 'better' Best Of. I think it needs to be able to be accessed by the general public without having to jump through hoops that they don't know exist and that it's contents need be up there with jwfacts in Google hits.
For me, it just needs to be rid of the code that the Watchtower's hackers have managed to slip past Simon to make it unuseable. Now that Lee isn't active here, a new curator would be good. Or maybe Lee could come back and curate it
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Even my mom knew about JW's and 1977!!... wait... what??
by ILoveTTATT inand my mom said, "yeah, like those brothers who thought... that... 1977... was the end of the world...".
mom: "yeah... those who believed that last year was the end of the world".
i mean, how stupid is it to have a rock tell them when the end of the world is!!
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Black Sheep
By insisting on a 'Bible only' study with someone who doesn't know WT history & doctrines, you are cutting your right arm off. They can pretend the WT said whatever they want to pretend it said and blame the consequences on whoever they want to blame them on, and then tell you to call the dogs off when you've broken your own rule and pull out a WT ragazine to demonstrate they are out of order.
You need them to explain to you the results of searching the WT CD for 'selling homes short time remaining'..... using a Bible.
You need them explaining to you a lot of crap the WT teaches ..... using a Bible. Choose what you want them to explain carefully, and then control the subject so that they can't sneak out the back door without confronting the issue that you raised.